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good post Sarah
For anyone interested, a bunch of Ori stuff is here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Search/Default.aspx?Te...
For synchronization, I am using Getdropbox and really this is the best thing I have ever tried. i really hope the new iDisk matches the same speed.
I have never tried Mesh - if you have a spare invite, i'd love to try it out - but it does looks promising. I would not call it more open than MobileMe however, I yet have to see a cross-browser/cross-platform MS product...
"So when Mesh doesn’t work on the iPhone, guess what? It’s not going to be because it wasn’t using the proper protocols. It will be because Steve Jobs didn’t want it to."
>>> Well I dont get this one, Apple has release their iPhone SDK so Microsoft could make an application or develop a standard-compliant mobile version of their website. There would not be any problem (?) What am I missing?
Also for the price of $99 - not only does i include a 20GB storage, but the mail / calendar / contact push technology is based on Exchange...so it's like a public version of Exchange and i yet have to see an Exchange server for that price! Also MobileMe can also be used with current @mac.com email addresses. As for me i plan to set up my @domain email address in the webmail and get the whole push magic.
How much storage do you get with Live Mesh, are those the 5GB of Skydrive? I fear it might be ad supported if this is to remain free.
I'm personally not down with paying $100 per year for storage. I find other ways because I'm che....uhh, frugal.
Skydrive is a separate product - that's not Mesh.
If I ever get more invites, I'll invite you.
I could be crazy about all this. I think it has potential. Vista sounded great in theory. Then they dropped features and so on. Execution is what matters now.
Sorry now I do not see how one can compare Live Mesh to MobileMe. Cause in fact Live Mesh is just the iDisk part of MobileMe.... Thought it would have brought more than that. i'll keep an eye on it though, we'll see what they plan to add to this service in the future.
Mesh is the platform not the service.
The problem is that, obviously, people who are casually testing Mesh now don't understand this and think that this sync/storage service is the entirety of the offering. Not so! This is just the tip of the iceberg.
I agree that Microsoft isn't working too hard to clear up this common misconception, so I understand why you were judging Mesh on what you see now.
Nice write up on MobileMe and Live Mesh. I glad (sort of, I guess) to see I'm not the only one the Apple fanboys like to bash. They didn't like what I had to say about the iPhone 2.0/3G last week on my Network World blog. (Here's a link: http://www.nww.com/community/ashley)
Anyway, good stuff and keep up the great writing.
Mitchell
But that's just another one of my crazy ideas for what I would do if I were running Microsoft... :)
Funny as I just wrote one about MobileMe as well. :)
http://iboughtamac.com/2008/06/20/thoughts-on-m...
But regardless, the main point for MobileMe which is well worth the $100 (I know how to get it less btw) is just the fact I will do real-time syncing of my contacts, e-mail, and all that good stuff across all my platforms including my iPhone.
I have been using Mesh, it definitely has potential, but I fear like many other services it will have no direction and won't appeal to the end user. Talking with casual users, they say Mesh looks too "complicated", and that is something I hope MS addresses.
-Spencer
1) uber marketing skills (unlike what apple fans think, i think that MS did not become popular because of a "fluke" but rather because of bill gates' uber marketing skills)
2) great hardware looks
3) great products overall
4) better GUI (i prefer vista's gui although mac osx is better overall, and vista buttons own apple buttons. seirously, mac osx button is a blue oval with a shine)
5)a better logo (microsoft logo is so bland...it is just the text "microsoft")
6) a company that dusnt have the feedback feature just for show when it really dusnt care what its customers think
But that will never happen cuz apple is so up itself and MS hates apple from a business perspective.
The MM service is designed to also present that data on the web or push it to the iPhone. Apple hasn't yet enabled third parties to develop their own MM web apps, and I'm not aware of any specific API to present synced data to the iPhone (although one can easily publish it to MM's WebDAV service and access it from either native apps or web apps on the phone (or any phone for that matter).
That indicates that your characterization of Apple=Closed :: Microsoft=Open Platforms is really just wrong. The real relatinoship to highlight is:
Apple=shipped and still being actively developed, while not without flaws :: Microsoft=arrogant vaporware.
The tables have turned. In the early 90s, the opposite was true. Microsoft was shipping beta stuff that met people's needs, and Apple was just talking about great lofty architectures that it never shipped.